EUro (Thursday, 20 Dec 2012) Reply
I loled hard.
canadian (Thursday, 20 Dec 2012) Reply
well in quebec province it would be more like ( you have cancer , the treatment start in 5 years if youre lucky because we have a shortage of money so... good luck with that. )
Right eh (Thursday, 20 Dec 2012)
As a Candadian, I agree with the canadian. The health care is free, but it takes a year to get an MRI, if you get one at all. In the USA, you can get one the same day from your local clinic in the mall... You get what you pay for.
euro*** (Thursday, 20 Dec 2012)
and in germany, you can get one the same day and don't pay for it. you get what your health insurance pays for. well there's statutory health insurance which garanties you a proper treatment and private health insurance which also pays for single room with electic sickbed lifter. but they don't let you sell meth to come up for your cancer treatment. if i was you, canada, i would build up some gigantic wall at the US border to keep them iniquitous influences away.
Canaduh (Thursday, 20 Dec 2012)
E-HAW! *shoots his guns in the air doing the gold miner dance* I have lived up here in Canada for 10 years... Try the poutien and git yer free check ups!
Free lunch (Thursday, 20 Dec 2012)
Still no such thing.
@Right eh (Thursday, 20 Dec 2012)
You don't have "free" health care. You have government issued health care. You pay for your health care through your taxes, thus it is not free.
There is no such thing as "free" as everything has a cost.
@Hows it goin eh? (Saturday, 22 Dec 2012)
@Right eh That's the infuriating part My fellow Canuck. We don't get what we pay for. We pay taxes up the ***. If we used what we get taxed just for medicare and used it for private insurance we'd be treated like kinds at the hospital. Our Gov is robbing us.
David (Thursday, 16 May 2013)
Sorry, if you live in a decently populated area this statement is simply wrong. I grant you the system is not perfect. The actual delivery of health care in rural areas can be poor. It can also be difficult to find a GP in some communities. But I have lived in both the U.S. and Canada for years and there is no debate: Canadians enjoy a far superior system. Americans pay far more for private health care (ask an American friend for the amount of their monthly HMO payment, their co-pay, etc.) than Canadians do in taxes for access to the public system. That is by design; that is the benefit of a tax system that pools public resources. There is a reason why medical bankruptcy basically does not exist in Canada.
tldr; you may not like the Canadian system, but comparing the U.S. system favorably to it is either naive or disingenuous.
Trawna (Wednesday, 11 Sep 2013)
MRI for a busted knee != cancer treatment. Several family members and friends have had serious cancers here in Ontario and their treatment -- surgery, chemo, scans, whatever was required -- started within a week of diagnosis. Part of the reason there's a waiting list is they prioritize the most urgent and serious cases. We never had to wait more than a few weeks for anything when my dad was ill and usually it was less than that.
I find it really offensive that people who haven't lived this will make shit up about it to justify their politics.
EasternEU (Thursday, 20 Dec 2012) Reply
I don't get it. They are really fast!
EUro (Friday, 21 Dec 2012)
In Canada you'll get your treatment at once 'cause of propper health insurance. In the USA you have to sell drugs to fund your treatment 'cause they are so free they just don't want any health insurance and prefer to die or become criminals if falling ill. In EasternEU there is no treatment. - But EasternEU isn't actually real EU.
nine4t4 (Thursday, 20 Dec 2012) Reply
FANTASY!!! You're more ****** in Canada if you get seriously sick. At least the US gives you the private option. The reality is that Canadians will go to the US to get treatment. As said already "you get what you pay for."
No (Thursday, 20 Dec 2012)
No, the reality is, you'll get treated, no matter who you are. In the USA, only those with health insurance and money to pay for health care get treated. Poor people don't stand a chance. I'd rather wait a few months than not get any health care at all. Social healthcare is a blessing to those on the lower rungs of society.
EUro (Friday, 21 Dec 2012)
The "E pluribus unum"-US-Americans are far too selfish, greedy and closefisted for a social healthcare system. They prefer to let poor people die. And state, that it's God will - 'cause the poor deserve to be poor 'cause their "believe in God" is not strong enough. How cheap and heartless. And such people call themselves "good christians".
winterhog (Sunday, 23 Dec 2012)
You can be privately insured if you want. Tax-funded healthcare is a baseline for all, and if you have more money, you can always pay for better services. It's a a bit like security - tax-funded police works for everyone, but you can always hire a security team, bodyguards or a private detectives. This systems works well in rich countries, where citizens can pay due taxes and still have a lot of money to spend or invest.
hospital employee (Tuesday, 29 Jan 2013)
I work in a emergancy room. In the us it is illegal to not treat someone who doesn't have insurance. The more you know...
WHA HA HA!!! (Friday, 21 Dec 2012) Reply
And here I was ready for a long and winding joke about how Canadians are overly polite...
Polish (Friday, 21 Dec 2012) Reply
-You have Cancer. Your treatment starts in five years.
-I found this on the floor. (passing an envelope towards the doctor)
-Please come on Monday.
Smoke gets in your eyes (Friday, 21 Dec 2012) Reply
If you were ever a smoker and develop lung cancer, the gov't will deny you treatment. Wait and see.
Uddr Canadian (Sunday, 23 Dec 2012) Reply
When my neighbor contracted a heart problem, his doctor said he'd have to wait six months for a specialist.
When my grandfather contracted the same heart problem, his doctor said the same thing..
The difference, one was in Canada, one was in the US. There's no difference whatsoever, except for Canada actually helping people out like decent human beings.
BG (Sunday, 23 Dec 2012) Reply
Horseshit! I live in Ontario and I have cancer (non-Hodgkin lymphoma) and I didn't have to wait five years for an CT-scan or treatment. I got it within a week of being diagnosed. No, it's not free, we pay for it with our taxes, but it isn't in the hands of self-interested insurance companies who only care about their profit margin and their shareholders.
e (Tuesday, 25 Dec 2012) Reply
made me lulz
RHJunior (Saturday, 12 Jan 2013) Reply
...and then he died waiting in line for the operation that never happened. Which is better than what happened to the guy in front of him in line, who died on the operating table when his gubmint-cheese paid surgeon screwed up....
Dave (Wednesday, 22 May 2013) Reply
A case of beer costs more in Canada than a Doctors visit in the US. WHO pays more for healthcare ?... Oh I guess it's all the healthy people paying for the sick in Canada... and all the rich paying for the poor in the US. No matter how you look at it we all pay for the the same shit in different ways...It all takes money, It's just a matter of how you want to cover the costs.
Oerwinde (Wednesday, 2 Oct 2013)
My ex-GIrlfriend went to the doctor in the US because the left side of her body went numb and she couldnt open doors. Doctor said it was a panic attack. Charged 140 dollars. Turned out it was MS, which was what she self diagnosed from WebMD. I've never seen a 140 dollar case of beer.
Wow (Tuesday, 25 Jun 2013) Reply
And in Britain, you can get one the same week without even needing insurance, NHS baby..
Bob (Friday, 19 Jul 2013) Reply
I've spoken with Canadians I know who all tell me that the only wait in Canada is for non-essential care. Essential care is as fast or faster than in the USA and in Canada EVERYONE is covered. Canadians who complain about their health care system really need to experience the U.S. system for an eye opening comparison.
We have 50 MILLION uninsured here (and I still can't understand what insurance has to do with health care other than taking their 30% cut off the top). Many others' insurance coverage here doesn't pay for anything but thge basics. A short hospital stay can destroy a person or family financially even for people who have insurance!
Based on that perspective, I'd say waiting for single payer care in Canada is better than the GUARANTEE OF NO CARE OR TOO LITTLE CARE we have here in the USA.
Good Canuck (Tuesday, 27 Aug 2013) Reply
American system is terrible and costs the government and the consumer way more money than the alternatives. The Canadian system is better but it is far from perfect. It's not one or the other. Look to France, England, and Australia for examples of systems that have major promise. One-or-the-other mentality muddies the discussion. If you look at what the American system as the perfect system and Obama Care as government takeover than there really is no convincing you to look at policies that work. Likewise, for people that think the Canadian system is perfect and that any adoption of American or other alternative systems is privatizing healthcare at the expense of the patient is also lost. The truth is that a marriage between the two is what is needed. The private health care system for all its emphasis on competition to control price does an absolutely terrible job and costs Americans, and their government, far more than any other country. For Canadians, we have a dreadful wait period for delivery of services. Both scenarios are unacceptable. Dogmatic acceptance of one or the other leads only sick people dying or going bankrupt in its wake.
Rawd (Wednesday, 28 Aug 2013) Reply
I got an MRI within 24 hours. It depends on what's wrong with you. Sure we pay through our taxes. Better that, than having to mortgage your house so you can go through treatment. Love our system.
Wenttouni (Friday, 30 Aug 2013) Reply
I'm American and went to college in Canada. When I was there, my friends would get sick--get a scratched eye, possible concussion, stomach ache that wouldn't go away--and they'd go to the doctor to see what was wrong. In the US, a friend had a progressively dull ache for years and didn't go to the doctor because she didn't have health insurance and couldn't afford it, it was acute and so instead she hoped it might go away. In the end, it was cancer, and by the time she had it checked out it was too late. Yes, emergency rooms will treat you if your arm has been ripped off or whatever, but for regular care that can save lives and dollars in the long run--and a whole different approach to staying well--Canada all the way, baby.
amy (Monday, 16 Sep 2013)
I am a dual citizen...CA and US. I have lived both places. I tore miniscus in Canada. While waiting for a MRi in Canada, did physical therapy, acupuncture, as recommended by my dr, which by the way made things worse. If they had did an MRI in the emergency room they would of seen what the problem was. Three months later, when there was no improvement. Finally they decided to let me have an MRI. Another three months later it was my turn to get the MRI, four months later I finally was able to get the botched surgury and had to do physical therapy all over again. It still was never right. Several years later, living in the US, I fell and hurt the same knee. I tore the ACL ligament. From the MRI (done that night in the emergency room, they saw it was torn. Got an appt with the surgeon in two days. He said there was damage to the miniscus and also saw i had miniscus repair previously done incorrectly. I had the ligament replaced the miniscus repaired that week. Physical therapy afterward. I feel like a new person. I can run and jump (I am 60 years old) again; I was never able to jump after the first surgery. Yes, in canada there was no fee, other than the extremely high taxes we pay. In US, it cost me my insurance payments and a total of about $200 deductables (because of the insurance plan we choose) My insurance premiums are way cheaper than the tax dollars I would pay in canada. Canada medicare is great for dr visits, checkups, but when it comes to anything major, go to us. In fact, my husbands company sends their employees to US when there is anything serious. We did not live in a rural area. In fact, the largest city in New Brunswick.
For those who seem unaware, if you have insurance in Canada, it does not put you ahead in the que, it pays for private room or Rx...it does not get you faster care. If you are "poor" in the US, your care is free as you are on social assistance. It is the middle class person who chooses not to use their insurance or who chooses to not purchase it in the first place. It is much cheaper to purchase US insurance than pay the high taxes in Canada and the care is much better and faster in US in my circumstances. My situation was not life threatening but was painful; I do know of people who have died waiting for cancer treatment in Canada. I do know of people who were denied dialysis because they were "too old".
Jason (Friday, 13 Sep 2013) Reply
I CALL BS ON THIS!!! WALT GOT FREE HEALTHCARE FROM THE GOVERNMENT!!! As a teacher Walt is a Government employee with Government insurance. Walt and family were not happy with his free government option and chose instead to go with the best care money could buy. How is this any different than what goes on in Canada????
JerStor (Monday, 23 Sep 2013)
I'm sorry to break it to you, but I'm a teacher and I don't get free health insurance.
R Flowers (Saturday, 21 Sep 2013) Reply
1) Walt was a high school chemistry teacher. Whatever else you might say about that profession, they tend to have as good as health plans as any in the country. Very likely that Walt's insurance through the school would pay the expected amount (although of course there are co-pays, limits, etc. - but we'll have those under Obamacare too).
2) Walt's concern was not only paying for medical bills, but providing for his family after he was gone. That was a big motivator. So does Canada, U.K., etc. provide hundreds of thousands of dollars to families that lose a loved one? And if not, what kind of barbaric shit-hole countries are they?
Canadian cancer treatment. (Saturday, 21 Sep 2013) Reply
I was a single mother of 3 teens in 2008. had a routine ultrasound April 4. Two days later my GP said it was cancer. April 7 I consulted with a head and neck surgeon. May 17 I had a complete thyriodectomy, central node dissection and strap muscle revision. I had radioactive iodine treatment in August (I had to prep for 6 weeks off thyroid meds so the delay here). In September I began 6 weeks radiation (daily). In October, while on radiation I had a PEG feeding tube surgically inserted. I finished treatment at the end of October. I had consults with oncologists, registered dietician, psychologist, dentist and endocrinologist. I did not pay for anything besides parking at the Cancer Centre. I had numerous ultrasounds, MRIs and CTs. Treatment was timely and effective. Cancer free for 5 years. -- Edmonton, CANADA
Dustin (Monday, 30 Sep 2013) Reply
My opinion. Dont get sick, eat healthy. Go to the gym. If you cant do those things. go away
Rebecca (Monday, 30 Sep 2013)
Don't get sick, Dustin? I highly doubt that anyone can avoid certain illnessess such as cancer.